Subject: Re: Shades of Neil Postman!!
From: David Wiles (rprtcard@aug.com)
Date: Tue 04 Apr 2000 - 00:24:50 MEST
Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 18:24:50 -0400 From: David Wiles <rprtcard@aug.com> Subject: Re: Shades of Neil Postman!!
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something akin to Descartes' "methodical doubt."
wasn't it methodological doubt?
Fellow Trudger
At 09:32 AM 4/4/2000 +1200, you wrote:
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>Howdy y'all:
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>Ania responds to my early posting with the following:
>"Technology therefore serves pedagogy rather than liberates it...How did
>your students think that, with the help of technology, they could make their
>future students creative, subversive, make critically informed decisions?"
>Ania Lian
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>Actually, I was referring to the notion that technology liberates learning
>by opening up the curriculum not pedagogy, as Ania has stated. (I had said:
>"This curriculum is based upon the motivations of a learner who demotes
>technology-based information to a subordinate role: that of serving the
>creative synthesis of motivation and knowledge into works of art.") Pedagogy
>is of course altogether different from learning, and pedagogical methods are
>often constrained by politics. Most educators function in an at least
>partially political environment, and Ania's model ignores this fact.
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>Ania's paper refers to the necessity of learning being a subversive
>activity. I assume she is adapting Neil Postman's "Teaching as a Subversive
>Activity." I think she has misconstrued Postman's point, though. Allow me
>to again refer to philosophy. I suppose that what Ania's "subversion" is
>aiming towards is something akin to Descartes' "methodical doubt." The
>subversive approach targets only one type of learning or one domain, related
>to the catharsis of the individual learner, in a philosophical sense.
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