RE: [ifets] A new member - Ken Kahn

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Garnock-Jones, Mike (mgarnock@rotherham.ac.uk)
Mon, 23 Nov 1998 10:13:52 -0000 

From: "Garnock-Jones, Mike" <mgarnock@rotherham.ac.uk>
Subject: RE: [ifets] A new member - Ken Kahn
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 10:13:52 -0000

George
i like your idea about young peoples involvement in creation
I work at an FE college and am currently developing some flexible learning
materials for 14-17 year olds which will inform them of voc, training and
post-16 career options.
I am keen to get a group of young people involved in developing the
materials so that they are user friendly, attractive to young people- its a
chance for a group to develop their IT skills.
The plan is for these materials to be on-line and therefore voc ed (and
accreditation) to become more accessible (and this includes its
presentation) to young people who are not attending school, with a view to
re-engagement.
I welcome your ideas?
Mike

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> From: George Free[SMTP:gfree@oise.utoronto.ca]
> Reply To: ifets@gmd.de
> Sent: 21 November 1998 18:38
> To: ifets@gmd.de
> Subject: Re: [ifets] A new member - Ken Kahn
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> On Fri, 20 Nov 1998, Ken Kahn wrote:
>
> > I think software isn't just something for learners
> > to use, but also to create. I like the analogy that using software is
> like
> > reading, and creating software is like writing. Children aren't expected
> to
> > write great novels or magazine articles but they are expected to learn
> to
> > write. Why don't we give them the tools to create software? And what has
> > gone wrong (and right) with attempts in the past to give computer
> > programming a bigger role in K though 12.
> >
> I agree 100%. I would only add (being a non-programmer myself)
> that we need such tools for adults as well.
> Also I think we need more easy-to-use and flexible software of all
> types. Much of the commercial software that currently exists, like the
> common word processing packages, are, IMHO, disasters when it comes to
> facilitating user activity. Tools need to be simple, elegant and adaptable
> to user needs. The focus of attention should be on the object of the
> activity and not on the tool itself.
>
> George Free
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