Scott Overmyer (Scott.Overmyer@cis.drexel.edu)
Mon, 23 Nov 1998 09:39:29 -0500
From: "Scott Overmyer" <Scott.Overmyer@cis.drexel.edu> Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 09:39:29 -0500 Subject: RE: [ifets] A new member - Ken Kahn
You might be interested in exploring O*NET if you haven't already. It's
the U.S. D. of Labor's
replacement for the Dictionary of Occupational Titles (electronic) and has
most occupations
broken down into job characterisitics and tasks and you can do some
interesting things with
it. If you're interested, I can put you in touch with the developers.
scotto...
"Garnock-Jones, Mike" <mgarnock@rotherham.ac.uk> on 11/23/98 05:13:52 AM
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Subject: RE: [ifets] A new member - Ken Kahn
George
i like your idea about young peoples involvement in creation
I work at an FE college and am currently developing some flexible learning
materials for 14-17 year olds which will inform them of voc, training and
post-16 career options.
I am keen to get a group of young people involved in developing the
materials so that they are user friendly, attractive to young people- its a
chance for a group to develop their IT skills.
The plan is for these materials to be on-line and therefore voc ed (and
accreditation) to become more accessible (and this includes its
presentation) to young people who are not attending school, with a view to
re-engagement.
I welcome your ideas?
Mike
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> From: George Free[SMTP:gfree@oise.utoronto.ca]
> Reply To: ifets@gmd.de
> Sent: 21 November 1998 18:38
> To: ifets@gmd.de
> Subject: Re: [ifets] A new member - Ken Kahn
>
>
>
> On Fri, 20 Nov 1998, Ken Kahn wrote:
>
> > I think software isn't just something for learners
> > to use, but also to create. I like the analogy that using software is
> like
> > reading, and creating software is like writing. Children aren't
expected
> to
> > write great novels or magazine articles but they are expected to learn
> to
> > write. Why don't we give them the tools to create software? And what
has
> > gone wrong (and right) with attempts in the past to give computer
> > programming a bigger role in K though 12.
> >
> I agree 100%. I would only add (being a non-programmer myself)
> that we need such tools for adults as well.
> Also I think we need more easy-to-use and flexible software of all
> types. Much of the commercial software that currently exists, like the
> common word processing packages, are, IMHO, disasters when it comes to
> facilitating user activity. Tools need to be simple, elegant and
adaptable
> to user needs. The focus of attention should be on the object of the
> activity and not on the tool itself.
>
> George Free
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