Joe Beckmann (joeb@oekos.org)
Mon, 23 Nov 1998 08:52:37 -0500
From: "Joe Beckmann" <joeb@oekos.org> Subject: [ifets] Materials for 14-17yr olds, voc, training, post 16 options Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 08:52:37 -0500
Mike,
look at the virtual high school stuff in concord, Massachusetts, which is an
online high school. As much fun as it is to create new stuff, the problem
with the net is also it's reward: how many others are also creating that
same stuff. In the old days one could await publication, but in these days,
as drafts are available universally, it's a whole new preocess.
joe
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ifets@mail2.gmd.de [mailto:owner-ifets@mail2.gmd.de]On
> Behalf Of Garnock-Jones, Mike
> Sent: Monday, November 23, 1998 5:14 AM
> To: ifets@gmd.de
> Subject: RE: [ifets] A new member - Ken Kahn
>
>
> George
> i like your idea about young peoples involvement in creation
> I work at an FE college and am currently developing some flexible learning
> materials for 14-17 year olds which will inform them of voc, training and
> post-16 career options.
> I am keen to get a group of young people involved in developing the
> materials so that they are user friendly, attractive to young
> people- its a
> chance for a group to develop their IT skills.
> The plan is for these materials to be on-line and therefore voc ed (and
> accreditation) to become more accessible (and this includes its
> presentation) to young people who are not attending school, with a view to
> re-engagement.
> I welcome your ideas?
> Mike
>
>
> > ----------
> > From: George Free[SMTP:gfree@oise.utoronto.ca]
> > Reply To: ifets@gmd.de
> > Sent: 21 November 1998 18:38
> > To: ifets@gmd.de
> > Subject: Re: [ifets] A new member - Ken Kahn
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 20 Nov 1998, Ken Kahn wrote:
> >
> > > I think software isn't just something for learners
> > > to use, but also to create. I like the analogy that using software is
> > like
> > > reading, and creating software is like writing. Children
> aren't expected
> > to
> > > write great novels or magazine articles but they are expected to learn
> > to
> > > write. Why don't we give them the tools to create software?
> And what has
> > > gone wrong (and right) with attempts in the past to give computer
> > > programming a bigger role in K though 12.
> > >
> > I agree 100%. I would only add (being a non-programmer myself)
> > that we need such tools for adults as well.
> > Also I think we need more easy-to-use and flexible software of all
> > types. Much of the commercial software that currently exists, like the
> > common word processing packages, are, IMHO, disasters when it comes to
> > facilitating user activity. Tools need to be simple, elegant
> and adaptable
> > to user needs. The focus of attention should be on the object of the
> > activity and not on the tool itself.
> >
> > George Free
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