Joe Beckmann (joeb@oekos.org)
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From: "Joe Beckmann" <joeb@oekos.org> Subject: RE: [ifets] Comment Tom Abeles Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 08:21:34 +0200 charset="iso-8859-1"
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This kind of alternative certification is actually more alive in the US than
most people would realize. The National Teachers Certification project is
independent of grades, courses, and other achievements, although it's also
more rigorous than virtually any state or local teacher certification.
Endorsed by the US National Commission on Teaching and America's Future, it
represents one of three alternative certification routes.
On another level altogether, the Child Development Associate (CDA) process,
used by pre-schools and intrinsic to many state pre-school and daycare
certification or accreditation, is also behaviorally based rather than
time-in-class. CDA requires an on-site supervision by somebody from their
central office, in DC. Slightly more "advanced" and requiring just as much
supervision and about 2 years, the Montessori teacher certification, through
the Montessori Accredition Commission on Teacher Education, is usually
beyond a B.A. and involves both hours of classroom and hours and months of
classroom teaching experience under certified personnel.
And these are just education. There are still non-law degreed lawyers in the
US (although they are growing rare) and CPA's with less than an MBA in
degree status.
Now, when it comes to certifying the institutions themselves, there the
problem is much more like sculpting water, and in terms of certifying
web-based activities within those institutions, the water changes to smoke.
Joe Beckmann
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> >What examples can Tom and others think of for
> >these alternative sources of certification and what credibility do they
> >have.
>
> The professional institutions. Not all engineers for example have degrees
> and it is indeed possible for some older engineers to have
> Chartered status
> without them. The status of John Smith BSc would be seen by most
> in industry
> as inferior to that of John Smith C.Eng.
>
> David A Robinson
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